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If your ship did not survive the canon-blasting, will you continue to write/read it?

Yes! It's fiction, so we're all AU anyway. I'm going down with the ship.  
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Yes. It's going to require some work, but I think we can keep it afloat. Grab a bucket and start bailing!  
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No. Every fan for herself! I'm jumping ship to a newer model.  
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Razzberry
Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 6:36 pm Reply with quote
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Let's face it-- the Fandom Fleet took some big hits from that canon. Anyone who wrote stories involving Lupin, Tonks, Hermione, Ron, Harry, Bill, Fleur or Ginny and who did not write the following four pairings: RWHG, HPGW, RLNT, BWFD has, realistically, had their ship blasted by canon.

Anyone who wrote Snape romantically has had a severe canon-blasting.

What's more, anyone who was writing seventh-year fics seems to have had the wind knocked out of their sails as well.

So, in light of all this, what do you intend to do?

As for me, I've been dabbling in everything for the past year. I have Snupin, SSHG, Snape/OFC, Lupin/OFC, and faculty fic that have all sustained various amounts of damage, and the bad thing is, all five are WiPs! I'm still tackling the questions of which ones to finish (combination of how AU they've become, how interested the muse is in them, and how far from finished they are)

New fics, though...

I see myself turning from Snape to Lupin for a romantic male lead (with or without Tonks Wink) and the Gen-fic bug is biting hard.

What about the rest of you?
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Kismet
Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 6:51 pm Reply with quote
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I don't write, but I'll still read all the (now) non-canon pairings that I was reading before. Just because they're non-canon now doesn't make the stories any less interesting.
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Two Methyloctane
Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 6:55 pm Reply with quote
Joined: 17 Jul 2005 Posts: 96 Location: Calgary, Canada
I'm sure fanfic authors will find a way to keep their ships together despite the information in HBP. I plan on working my SS/HG fics around the new information... makes for some juicy fight/make-up scenes...

Hermione: But you killed Dumbledore!

Snape (some variation of): I had to, blah blah blah

Hermione (some variation of): But how can I trust you/ You'll be thrown in Azkaban/ etc.
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Delirium
Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 7:06 pm Reply with quote
Joined: 20 Feb 2005 Posts: 34 Location: New York
SS/HG has always been non-canon, so right now, whilst it might be harder to develop the relationship, I guess it can still exist. My WIP is hit a bit, but to be honest, I expected to only have 2 years to write SS/HG fics that were relatively "easy" to explain, especially since mine were future fics. Maybe I should pick up by NT pining for RL and finding herself fic again.
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julietbencsik
Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 7:41 pm Reply with quote
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This book has left a wonderful outline of what will happen in the next book! I've started writing Snape's Redemption and it's HG/SS.

Please note, I've never written fanfic before. Bit nervous... Shocked
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Two Methyloctane
Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 7:48 pm Reply with quote
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Yeah, I don't think shippers have much to worry about. This book only creates new situations and obstacles for shippers. Current stories may be slightly affected (to which I say: finish writing it from a pre-HBP perspective), but otherwise, this can only be better for the fanfic world.

I had put off starting my new WiP until this book came out, and I already have some awesome ideas of how to work with the info in HBP.
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cstelzer
Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 8:02 pm Reply with quote
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I think the biggest things that shippers will have to face now is not the parings, it is the fact that hogwarts might not be open in book 7, and even if it is harry, ron and hermione will not be going there. I think in book 7 they will be traveling around the wizarding world trying to find and destroy all the horcurxes. Fanfics writers are going to get the outside wizarding world either entirely right or entirely wrong, because apart from a few locations (ie. Diagon Alley and Number 12) we really don't know much about the wizarding world outside of Hogwarts. But as far as the parings, I think that they will just have to be more creative about things. For instance the SS/HG paring, now this paring has always been a little unbelivable (not that it still isn't one of my favorite parings), and now writers will still be able to write this paring, just differently. Now longer will they be able to write about Snape being Hermiones teacher and them sneaking around the school, either in front of Dumbledore or behind his back, but will have to think of other ways for them to meet and have a relationship. I think that will be the most challenging thing to do, no longer do writers have the convient background of Hogarts anymore, there is a whole world out there that needs to be expolered.
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aphrodeia
Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 11:43 pm Reply with quote
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I'm a little worried that the fandom will see an influx of poorly-conceived fics, featuring Hermione as Snape's redemption without a bit of reasonable backstory. I'm scared to death, actually. Laughing
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QIK
Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 12:39 am Reply with quote
Joined: 14 May 2005 Posts: 11 Location: Berlin, Germany
What scares me the most is that I've never written any fic and now with all this new information I'm more tempted to write than ever. (Not that any of you will read it until I find a beta who can speak fluent German)

But I can imagine really, really good fics of that stuff. Sure the time for MLC and such stuff is definitely over but as we all don't know how evil Snape really is, if he is redeemable (?) or what else Jo has up her sleeve, we are still able to stick strictly to canon and make something like HG/SS possible, hell, even Snarry is still possible, it just needs more plot before some kinda relationship starts to explain all the development. And who said that fanfiction has to be romance or porn or such stuff?
That's part of it but fanfiction isn't better or worse just because it lacks sexual encounters. Sure, some sappy, fluffy Mr. Darcy stuff might be nice to read, to have an easy sleep but sometimes happily-ever-after isn't possible. Not without a considerable part of plot development after graduation.
Considering that 7th year is mostly different from what some of us thought I would think that any relationship/romance/friendship stuff between Snape and [insert definitely good character here] is impossible until the final battle or battles or whatever it might be.
Roughly quoting azazello, I can say: I don't like Snape as a person any longer, but I like him very much as a character.

I won't stop reading fluffy OOC stuff now, but I will see it for what it is: AU.

Seems like I'm quite ambiguous about Snape's character development...

Patrick
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Delirium
Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 2:09 am Reply with quote
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aphrodeia wrote:
I'm a little worried that the fandom will see an influx of poorly-conceived fics, featuring Hermione as Snape's redemption without a bit of reasonable backstory. I'm scared to death, actually. Laughing


That frightens me a little, too. I have some great ideas for potential fics, but I need to make them plausible.

As far as the outside wizarding world...Voldemort could have hidden the horcruxes (horcruxi?) anywhere - wizarding and/or Muggle world.
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Two Methyloctane
Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 2:56 am Reply with quote
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I think given Voldemorts hatred of his Muggle father and his Muggle orphanage, it's unlikely a Horocrux would be in a Muggle location. But he did have very wide travel of wizarding areas...

Maybe JK left a hint in the Albania thing... thats where Quirrel found him (I believe... no access to PS right now), and that's where Bertha Jorkins was...

Anyone think Harry's going to Albania soon?
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QIK
Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 3:46 am Reply with quote
Joined: 14 May 2005 Posts: 11 Location: Berlin, Germany
Two Methyloctane wrote:
I think given Voldemorts hatred of his Muggle father and his Muggle orphanage, it's unlikely a Horcrux would be in a Muggle location.


Maybe that's the reason why he would place one in a Muggle location? Muggles too stupid to notice, wizards too stupid to think of him placing it there. Not very cunning, but I wouldn't put it past the old bugger to think like that.

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Anyone think Harry's going to Albania soon?


Not really, I don't think that there's one. I think he only hid there because it was kinda far away and really somewhat rural. Many woods, few people. Could've also been Yugoslavia or Hungary. There's nothing in the geographical structure of Albania that would justify the placement of one of the Horcruxes there, and according to your theory Voldemorts hiding. I think Albania was just a random selection from JKR.


[EDIT] Just a quick question, completely negligible.
--"Every fan to HERself"-- The last time I checked, I was a boy and that would mean that I am excluded from the poll. Wink I'm not complaining, I know that it's highly unusual for boys to be here, and that's why the guys are sometimes forgotten. I'm just... well... clarifying for the next time. I didn't take offence, I merely noticed. [/EDIT]

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Two Methyloctane
Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 4:30 am Reply with quote
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Lol, that was really more of a joke, but I wouldn't be surprised if there are Horcruxes outside of England.

But I still don't really think many horcruxes would be outside the Wizard world, unless they have certain significance to Voldemort... I can possibly see the orphanage housing one, the Riddle House, and maybe King's Cross, and the Cave had one. At one point.

In the Wizard world, I can see Godric's Hollow having one, Hogwarts had one, the Gaunt House had one, but at the moment I can't think of any other significant Wizarding places for there to be another Horcrux.
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Pace
Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 6:38 am Reply with quote
Joined: 17 Jul 2005 Posts: 43 Location: Cologne (Germany)
QIK wrote:
What scares me the most is that I've never written any fic and now with all this new information I'm more tempted to write than ever. (Not that any of you will read it until I find a beta who can speak fluent German)

But I can imagine really, really good fics of that stuff. Sure the time for MLC and such stuff is definitely over but as we all don't know how evil Snape really is, if he is redeemable (?) or what else Jo has up her sleeve, we are still able to stick strictly to canon and make something like HG/SS possible, hell, even Snarry is still possible, it just needs more plot before some kinda relationship starts to explain all the development. And who said that fanfiction has to be romance or porn or such stuff?
That's part of it but fanfiction isn't better or worse just because it lacks sexual encounters. Sure, some sappy, fluffy Mr. Darcy stuff might be nice to read, to have an easy sleep but sometimes happily-ever-after isn't possible. Not without a considerable part of plot development after graduation.
Considering that 7th year is mostly different from what some of us thought I would think that any relationship/romance/friendship stuff between Snape and [insert definitely good character here] is impossible until the final battle or battles or whatever it might be.
Roughly quoting azazello, I can say: I don't like Snape as a person any longer, but I like him very much as a character.

I won't stop reading fluffy OOC stuff now, but I will see it for what it is: AU.

Seems like I'm quite ambiguous about Snape's character development...

Patrick


1. Hallo Patrick, biete mich für den Beta-Posten an, wenn Du magst.

2. I believe there are many new plots to be discovered (I mean how many times can you write the detention scenario and make it believable?) and although I never wrote a HG/SS I feel compelled to try just that with the 'HBP-Snape' and not the 'OOTP-version', even IF it means that all my previous plot ideas are now... whatever. Also, let's face it: HBP gives him even more 'edges' (no angel, definitely not) and don't you love your 'edges' on Snape? I know I do Wink

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Estrilda
Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 6:48 am Reply with quote
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The declarations of Harry, Ron & Hermione made at the very beginning of summer break that they are not going back to Hogwarts might not be entirely accurate. If Hogwarts is still open in the Fall, it is certainly likely that Harry would be encouraged to be there - we don't know for certain if Grimmauld Place is safe now - the staff might even provide him with a light schedule and support in his quest for the Horcruxes. Also, if Harry survives the 'final battle' against Tom, I can easily see Harry skipping a year and either being let into the Auror training program because he is the Chosen One who vanquished the Dark Lord or being allowed to return to a newly reopened Hogwarts after he faces Voldemort to get his NEWTs. I am thinking that Hermione will have more trouble selling the drop-out plan to her parents who don't consider her 'of age' at 17. And after the twins drop-out in Book 5, Molly will certainly work hard to convince Ron to go back if Hogwarts is teaching classes.
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